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Re: The New Muscle Bike build off
« Reply #125 on: Today at 08:38 »
ive not found (havent looked mind) how to remove the swingarm on the bike.
Its got a shaft in it, I was hoping to keep it as one complete unit.

with that in mind the frame has to tilt up at the front and the entire thing needs to slide backwards over the swingarm.

At one point I was considering running an angle grinder through the bottom spar and peeling it off. It would be easier but I want to keep the frame intact, as A I am making a jig for it, and b i have a guy wants to buy it.
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Re: The New Muscle Bike build off
« Reply #124 on: Yesterday at 19:28 »
Could the motor not be dropped out with the rear wheel and front end in place?
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Re: The New Muscle Bike build off
« Reply #123 on: Yesterday at 10:04 »
you cant been a pile of wood and some rope, its very versitile!
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Re: The New Muscle Bike build off
« Reply #122 on: Yesterday at 09:38 »
Yeah like I say, pro's and con's to all of them.  There's a universal adapter kit that fits into most foot peg mounts so you can lift the bike and get the swingarm etc all out - it's what I used for the FJ when I dropped the engine and swingarm.

The Abba is great, but a pain that you need all the different adapters and can be cumbersome in some cases. 

That said, I was still using blocks of wood and tie down straps too on the FJ engine  ;)

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Re: The New Muscle Bike build off
« Reply #121 on: Yesterday at 09:00 »
the chocks of wood are considerably cheaper than the abba lift.

plus the lift uses the swingarm mount I believe, which will also stop the engine dropping out. I plan to leave the engine and the swingarm as one unit.
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Re: The New Muscle Bike build off
« Reply #120 on: Yesterday at 08:57 »
That's where the Abba skylift comes in useful as you can get the bike up in the air supported by just the frame, but it's pro's and cons with both.

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Re: The New Muscle Bike build off
« Reply #119 on: Yesterday at 08:30 »
i just think they wanted the bike to be a certain size, and it just so happens its bigger than the engine.

its been a proper pain in the ar5e [filtered] to take apart. its currently sat on the centre stand and the engine is resting on some wood via the exhaust.

The exhaust wraps wround the the back of the frame, so that has to be removed before the frame will move, but the whole this is sat on the exhaust. catch 22. bloody complicated V4s with exhausts sticking out the back.

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Re: The New Muscle Bike build off
« Reply #118 on: 21:44 - 12 November, 2019 »
Looking at the pictures it does make you wonder why it’s so big and spacious above the motor
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Re: The New Muscle Bike build off
« Reply #117 on: 08:34 - 12 November, 2019 »
its huge, not only is it really thick, it doesnt really hug the engine that tightly.

all engine mounts removed now, I just need to remove the rear exhaust headers and the engine should just fall out.
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Re: The New Muscle Bike build off
« Reply #116 on: 21:09 - 11 November, 2019 »
I know where the designer got his inspiration for that frame...

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Re: The New Muscle Bike build off
« Reply #115 on: 12:47 - 11 November, 2019 »
Loving it :)
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Re: The New Muscle Bike build off
« Reply #114 on: 11:41 - 11 November, 2019 »
Proper beast that - looks like Honda have almost over engineered the thing, but I guess you get what you pay for, and this is designed to do some serious touring I guess.

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Re: The New Muscle Bike build off
« Reply #113 on: 11:25 - 11 November, 2019 »
Back on topic:

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I am so impressed with the build quality of this bike. its been a bit of a pain in the bot to dismantle, but I have not encountered a single siezed bolt or rusted nut. Even the radiator, as minging as it is for 50k miles doesnt have a fin bent out of place. whether that is the quality of the rad or the design of the fairing etc who knows but its impressive.

The bike has definitely been looked after and not seen many wet miles.

this was behind the rad:

clean. Even the exhaust studs dont look bad.
Look at the size of that frame!

So I have decided to ditch the abs and the linked brakes as I dont want them and it represents quite a weight saving. But I wanted the traction control to work as it uses the front and rear wheel speed sensors, which come from the abs system. So I looked into sending the wheel speed signals direct to the main ecu, but that wont work as the the abs unit cleans and modifies the signal before sending it onto the ecu. So I had the plan of seeing if I can use an arduino to drive the signals to the ecu, then I got talking to my man who has done this before and he said all he did was seperate the abs pump from the electronics and solonoids, a purpose built sender if you like:
pics of the seperated unit:


So I am going to make a blanking plate to go over the exposed electronics and tuck that away somewhere on the new chassis.



lastly, the fuel tank. Unfortunately the fazer fuel tank is a no go for this project. i thought not having an airbox woulf mean i could use a flat bottom tank. I assumed wrong.

The plan is this:


use the original tank. Not very original, however I am going to make some improvements, I am going to cut off and plate over all the recesses and brackets for the fairing mounts, and I am going to attempt to extend the tank back a touch, should give me an extra litre or so. 
I also plan to cut off the seams so it looks better (2/3rds of the tank was hidden behind fairings)



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Re: The New Muscle Bike build off
« Reply #112 on: 01:36 - 10 November, 2019 »
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Re: The New Muscle Bike build off
« Reply #111 on: 22:56 - 9 November, 2019 »
From a braking perspective on track its utterly pointless. Theres enough braking power from the front brake and enough grip from the front tyres that you can lift the rear wheel off the floor.

On the road I think same applies, however I do use the back brake at times because the forks on the tdm can be a bit soft and it stops the diving
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