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We've probably all had the benefit of the EU at some stage or the other, but is it worth the tariff we pay per head?

Leave the EU, feck 'em, not worth the control they have over us
2 (33.3%)
Benefits to us outweigh the cost and legal controls.
3 (50%)
Don't care.
1 (16.7%)

Total Members Voted: 5

Voting closed: 10:11 - 31 December, 2015

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Offline AlunL

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Re: The European Question Thread
« Reply #343 on: 12:46 - 17 January, 2019 »
It’s all about Red Lines.
If she breaks her red lines she’ll destroy the Tory party, if she sticks to them she’ll break up the UK...
Bet she wishes that running through a cornfield was the most difficult thing that she had to do...

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Re: The European Question Thread
« Reply #342 on: 10:50 - 17 January, 2019 »
I'd certainly avoid Kent and the South coast if this all goes through.

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Re: The European Question Thread
« Reply #341 on: 10:32 - 17 January, 2019 »
I'm hoping for a postponement as that weekend or the one after would be the best time for my Mother to come and visit  ;D

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Re: The European Question Thread
« Reply #340 on: 10:24 - 17 January, 2019 »
exactly. So you won't be coming home for a visit that weekend then Chris?

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Re: The European Question Thread
« Reply #339 on: 09:45 - 17 January, 2019 »
The Dutch foreign minister said the other day that the EU won't make major changes to the deal so if other countries also feel they've got the best deal they can I'm not too sure what May thinks she achieve with Plan B.  Although the EU seem to be making plans to allow for it to be delayed a few months but I've not seen anything about that from the UK side.

The Dutch are currently recruiting another 1000 customs officers but reckon only a third of them will have started by the end of March.  I can see transition weekend being absolute chaos if we do end up with a no deal, and still pretty chaotic even if there s a deal as there must be thousands of things that haven't even been thought of yet while they're all arguing with each other.

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Re: The European Question Thread
« Reply #338 on: 09:19 - 17 January, 2019 »
I think she’s painted herself and Corbyn into a corner here. There are three remaining options:
  • No deal, which everyone, bar the usual power-hungry Tory tossers and Monsieur Fromage think is a bad idea.
  • May’s deal, which seems to be the endpoint as far as negotiations with the EU goes.
  • A second referendum, which saves the politicians having to make a decision and gives both Leave and Remain someone to blame when the result goes against them.
All it will take to get second referendum is for May to be brave enough to accept that, for the good of the country, a no deal is off the table and for Corbyn to accept he’s not going to get a general election and even if he did, the EU won’t renegotiate with him. So that’s not going to happen is it? As you were then…..

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Re: The European Question Thread
« Reply #337 on: 08:55 - 17 January, 2019 »
and not be enough to encourage other parties within other EU states not to break away?

Well we keep being told that leaving is the stupidest thing to do, in which case why would the EU be bothered about giving us a decent (or at least mutually agreeable) deal?  If it's so great in the EU at the moment, they shouldn't have any concerns of any countries wanting to leave  :-X

My money’s on the country being offered a binding referendum (min 5% majority required) on stay in EU or leave with no deal

I actually think this is what labour etc is holding out for.  Corbyn's really frustrating me at the moment over this, she said she's willing to now talk (too little too late perhaps) so rather than state this would be welcome but why didn't she do this 2 years ago, he simply refuses to talk unless she states a no deal is off the table.  At the end of the day she can't promise that, as if they can't agree a deal that's all that's left.  I think he doesn't want to get a deal agreed because he's holding out thinking she'll agree to a final referendum on a no deal brexit or withdraw Article 50.

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Re: The European Question Thread
« Reply #336 on: 23:24 - 16 January, 2019 »
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A centrist party - like Mr Vincent Cable’s...?

What could May get from the EU that would appease both sides of the UK divide and gain support to pass a vote and not be enough to encourage other parties within other EU states not to break away?

My money’s on the country being offered a binding referendum (min 5% majority required) on stay in EU or leave with no deal
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Re: The European Question Thread
« Reply #335 on: 17:30 - 16 January, 2019 »
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Re: The European Question Thread
« Reply #334 on: 08:35 - 16 January, 2019 »
Half the usual labour voters won't vote for Corbin, conservatives are equally split, you'd think this would be a time for a centrist party to do well but they seem to be non existent.
Yup. Agree with that.

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« Reply #333 on: 08:28 - 16 January, 2019 »
Half the usual labour voters won't vote for Corbin, conservatives are equally split, you'd think this would be a time for a centrist party to do well but they seem to be non existent.

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Re: The European Question Thread
« Reply #332 on: 23:47 - 15 January, 2019 »
I am unsure how the Tories and the Deranged Ulster Pricks will manage to do anything other than unite to bolster their morale by defeating Corbyns vote of no confidence after their public division in a “f  :censored ck off commie this is our horror show ”reposte”? 

What does Corbyn offer his own divided party and the nation that is distinct when he is silent on remaining and a second referendum?
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Re: The European Question Thread
« Reply #331 on: 06:31 - 15 January, 2019 »
Don’t hold your breath, there’s still time to postpone the resignation, err I mean vote.

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Re: The European Question Thread
« Reply #330 on: 20:15 - 14 January, 2019 »
You have until approximately 7pm tomorrow night to be reasonably sure that something else will probably happen thereafter to delay the end of the world for a little bit longer
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« Reply #329 on: 17:42 - 14 January, 2019 »